Galactic Viceroy on Energy 101
0:00 Hey everybody welcome to Chuck Yates needs a job the podcast special episode today. Digital Wildcats has a new podcast out. We do. Hell yeah. Energy 101. I like it. All right. So here's what we
0:16 need to do real quick. We'll start over here with Sydney. Introduce yourself. Say what you do at Digital Wildcats and then we'll start talking about y'all's podcast. Great. I'm Sydney. I am the
0:29 event manager. I'm Joel's and I am a marketing coordinator. I'm Misty and I'm an executive assistant. I'm Julie and I run ops
0:41 and marketing. I'm getting and calling. All
0:45 right. We'll just stop at it off.
0:48 I don't think anybody would actually sign up for that job. So I really really enjoy it Oh, that's so sweet. Okay, we're not recording anymore. You can tell us.
0:59 No, so tell it. You guys got together started a podcast, which I think is really cool. And that's why I'm so glad y'all came on because I love what y'all are doing. Tell us the name. Tell us
1:08 what it is. Energy 101 where we ask the dumb questions so you don't have to. And it's really just a podcast to help us learn energy and help other people listening also learn. We all came from
1:27 outside of energy. So working at a place where all we talk about is energy. It was important to all of us to get a deeper understanding of what you guys are talking about. Oh, it's very cool. So
1:41 we've recorded how many episodes so far Sydney. Four four four. We have another one scheduled for next week. Cool. So just give me a sense who who have you had on. What have y'all talked about?
1:53 Kind of how's it gone down? I think my favorite so far has been Diana Grower. with NOV, she talked a lot about their RD and the steps you have to take to research tech and she talked a lot about
2:06 robots. And I feel like our conversation's always kind of spiral into these very niche things that, we start with the basic question and always kind of spirals into really fun kind of extra tidbits
2:19 that I don't think anyone would ever think to ask about - So what was the basic question for Diana and the reason I'm asking is next time I go eat lunch with her, I wanna ask it 'cause you're right,
2:30 she gets into robotics world and I mean, I never did offshore stuff. I mean, robots to me is like a Star Wars movie, but it's actually her life. So what was kind of the base question y'all
2:41 started with - We kind of just started chatting with her and it kind of just naturally came up that, and I can't remember what the actual name of the process was that she started talking about, do
2:53 you - I don't remember, but I was gonna say that was like my biggest takeaway
2:58 I related it a lot to the medical field and how technology is developed in the field. And you can't just throw it out there because you have all these lives you're putting at risk. If the technology
3:11 doesn't work or it's not ready. Something readiness scale - Oh yeah, technology readiness scale, does that sound right - Oh, nice - Something like that - Maybe not, don't hold me to that - No,
3:24 'cause I mean, if you think about it, so what Diana does a lot of offshore stuff and you're under 2, 000 feet of water and it's dangerous, there's a lot of pressure and so robotics of lot a makes
3:36 sense. 'Cause I think one of the things, 'cause y'all, we sit around and we talk about what you guys are doing and it's like, well, we just wanna ask some questions and can we ask the stupid
3:47 question and basics? And I remember one time the idea popped up well, we should record all those. 'Cause the other thing I think that comes out of this, not only this base education, it's we do a
4:00 lot of really, really cool shit in the oil and gas business. And
4:06 I mean, I kind of grew up in it, Colin grew up in it, and so it's sort of secondhand to us, but I mean, his drill bit video on what you call it, TikTok, I mean, a million people have watched
4:17 that. How crazy is that - I think the technology just in the oil field is insane And you don't think of it like technology in the sense of the word, because it's all big machinery, but that's still
4:30 technology in robots. And I think that's like one really cool thing with Diana, she's able to get you very excited about what's coming up in the field. She makes it not so grungy, which was cool.
4:46 'Cause when you think of oil and gas specifically, you think of just like grungy, old, less sexes, not so much the cool side of things. So Misty, who's, give me another episode. Who else did
5:00 we, did you guys have on besides Diana - We've had Justin Gogee.
5:09 Thank you, Julie. And he talked about fluid drilling, right - He kind of broke down the basics of like upstream, midstream, downstream, like basic level, oil and gas - Oh, and I bet Justin was
5:24 really good at it - Yeah, it's kind of fun - My favorite Justin thing is, he posted a picture of himself riding a pump jack, and I put it next to Sarah Stodgerner's nude picture, and I ran a poll
5:34 on Twitter of
5:37 who wore it better. And he didn't lose by that much - I was gonna say, he went up - Which was kind of impressive - That must be a thing
5:46 now. I've seen a lot of people on LinkedIn or pictures of people riding pump jacks. Oh my God, okay - Oh, it's always a thing It's always a thing. You grew up in West Texas and you've had three
5:57 beers. You've really involved in it. Yeah. You don't really have much else to do.
6:04 So that's cool. So who else has been on? So we've had Justin, we've had Diana. And we had Kay McCall. She taught us about renewables. Oh, cool. Give me a factor too that you learn there. I
6:15 think for me, with her episode, she broke it down. She broke the industry, energy industry down into two parts And I had never thought of it this way. And probably because I just don't have a
6:28 deep understanding of the petrochemical side. But she broke it down into the power generation side, which is what renewables are. There's not petrochemicals that you're making other products with.
6:40 And then the petrochemical side, which is where oil and gas really comes in. So it was cool to get it broken down like that because I've never heard of anyone like talking about that before Yeah.
6:55 Again, it's just kind of one of those second nature things. You know that you take oil, you refine it, turns into transportation fluid or fuel that's, you know, 90 somewhat percent of all
7:09 transportation in the world happens because of refined petroleum, right? But then they make a ton of stuff out of it. I mean, plastics, all that. And one of the funniest things is, you know,
7:22 the CEO
7:28 of Patagonia, somebody wanted to put their logo, an oil and gas company, wanted to put their logo on a vest and he said, no, we wouldn't do that. Well, every single product he sells has
7:36 polyester in it, which is made out of oil. So the Colorado Oil and Gas Association voted him customer of the year -
7:45 That's funny - Yeah, no, so it's, so yeah, it's pretty funny. Okay, but, okay, so this begs the question And I don't want to come off as needy here, but I I think it's going to come off as
7:57 needy. You'll have this great podcast. You're asking these dignitaries, base questions on energy to educate and I don't get to come on. Really - I'm so worried - What do you want to talk about - I
8:12 don't know if actually, if you remember, we did invite you to come talk about the IRA - Oh,
8:20 yeah, the Inflation Reduction Act - Yes - So, like, I have to host my own podcast to get you all to ask me that question - It's an I for an I - Okay - Yeah - All right, so far away, ask me a
8:33 question. Is that the question we're going to talk the IRA - I actually wasn't prepared for that. Are y'all prepared for that - No. No - Can you break down in simple terms what the Inflation
8:44 Reduction Act is - Yes. So basically what the Inflation Reduction Act does is when it. comes to the energy business is, let's call it half a billion, it was at 500 billion or so, of credits
9:03 towards the energy business pushing clean energy. And what's interesting about it is historically in America, how we grew up as a country is government would throw money at things, but it sort of
9:19 just threw money at things and said, Hey private sector, you go figure it out Right? You all compete, whoever the winner is and our tax code is really dirty because industries go in and get
9:32 favorable tax treatment for their industry versus other stuff, but for the most part, what was interesting about the IRA is it came in and basically said, Hey, we're going all in on electric
9:44 vehicles. Right? And so it said things like,
9:51 Here's a tax credit for cars if you buy an electric vehicle. And then it took it a step further and said, oh, by the way, you only get that tax credit if I think it said 80 of your battery
10:03 components are manufactured in North America and or
10:10 you mind the materials in North America. So not only did it say kind of, hey, we're doing electric vehicles, it said we're doing it here and we're prescribing the path. And so it's, you know,
10:25 Mark Meyer who's starting to hang out with us and potentially going to write start writing the BDE newsletter for us. He really pointed out that Holy cow, the second order effects of this, and
10:38 we're starting to see that as, you know, Honda came out and said, we're building a battery manufacturing plant here. We're going to spend 4 billion doing it And you've seen numerous kind of
10:49 announcements like that.
10:52 You know, it's been interesting watching that amount of money, that amount of favorable stuff in the tax code really push clean energy, but push it in such a way where the government has chosen the
11:05 path we're going to do it. Because for instance, if the goal was just to reduce carbon, right, that's why we're driving electric vehicles, the government could say, here's 500 billion And oh,
11:18 by the way, if you generate less than this amount of carbon in your car, you qualify for it. That's not what they said. They said electric vehicles. There are guys out there that have processes
11:32 and are on the verge of commerciality in terms of doing low carbon gasoline from natural gas. They don't qualify. Why is that? Like, why, what is the agenda here? Well, and that's what's really
11:48 fascinating about it, at least from my vantage point is The lobbyist, I guess, for electric vehicles won out. 'Cause the ultimate goal is less CO2 in the air, right? Less emissions - Right - But
12:03 that wasn't tied to the tax. The tax was, you're an electric vehicle - But it was very specific - It was very specific. The government chose the winner right there instead of, Hey guys, have
12:14 lower emissions cars and you'll get a tax credit? They said, No, it's electric vehicles So it's interesting 'cause, and to the point Mark was making about the second order of facts, it's not just,
12:28 Okay, we're taking 500 billion and we have a 31 trillion worth of debt. So I hate to say 500 billion is a drop in the bucket, but it's kind of a drop in the bucket. Instead of just spinning that,
12:42 it's stepping back to Honda at all building factories here that take 4 billion in all We're really. going to be spending a lot of dollars. And that goes back to the big picture thing that we talk a
12:55 lot about around here is the goal is to reduce CO2. But at the end of the day, we got to do it and spend 5 trillion, not do it and spend 50 trillion. Because if we spend 50 trillion, the 45
13:12 trillion could do a lot of good things, feed people, the homeless, whatever you want to do with 45 trillion. Because I think that, I think basically the markets stated we're going to reduce
13:24 emissions. Right. And I mean, that's not just the government. That's Apple computer. It's my kids. It's everybody has said that. The key for the good of the world, I think, is figure out how
13:36 to do it without bringing down our quality of living. And we can bring down our quality of living two ways by one, not having cheap affordable electricity and to just spending more money on things
13:49 that you shouldn't. So. Dara is pretty fascinating. We need to get somebody somewhere that knows a lot more about it than I do to actually come on and talk about it. 'Cause I think we're gonna
14:00 look back in five years and go, Holy shit, that was a way bigger deal than even we appreciate it
14:07 at the time - What's the sentiment in the different energy verticals about this, like oil and gas? What's the sentiment there with it? Renewables, what's the sentiment there? Like is it aligned?
14:18 Is everyone on the same page? Is it like controversy - No, I think oil and gas folks look at it and go,
14:29 okay, so when you look at the tax code and government spending, they're basically kind of two buckets, right? One is if you spend X amount of dollars on something, how you depreciate that over
14:48 time influences your taxes, right? 10 billion and we can depreciate that over 10 years. It's a billion a year. Well, it's actually better for us if we can depreciate in two years, right? 'Cause
15:01 everything we depreciate covers up income and we don't have to pay tax on. So it's how you depreciate CapEx. And then there are literally what I define as subsidies. That's the government cutting a
15:14 check to you. And so I think what oil and gas has always had is accelerated depreciation. So people have kind of said, Hey, it's really crappy that you drill a 10 million well and about 75 of it
15:30 can be depreciated in the first year. Even though that well is gonna be producing oil for 40 years, right? So people have always said, That's crappy. Well, oil and gas guys say about renewables,
15:42 they actually get subsidies from the government. I mean, the government gives you a tax credit, meaning if you spend 100 building a solar. plant, you get 100 of savings on your taxes, no matter
15:53 what, if that plant works, doesn't work and
15:56 all that. So
15:59 I think oil and gas is saying, hey, why are you subsidizing all those guys? And I think their legitimate argument is at least what I generate oil and gas can be base load in terms of generating
16:13 electricity. You know, we, winter storm, Yuri, notwithstanding, you know, we can run natural gas fired plants generate electricity no matter what. You are in effect encouraging the building of
16:29 wind and solar, which is great. But when they don't run, we don't have electricity and they don't pay a penalty for that. Right? Because the way most, certainly the the grid and taxes are caught
16:41 the way it works is you put some electricity on the grid, you get paid for it. Right? And so wind and solar that in effect gets built for free because
16:51 subsidizing that puts electricity on, makes money, the wind doesn't blow, it doesn't put it on, who cares if you're the wind provider, well the consumer cares, because all of a sudden the lights
17:03 go off and all that. And so I think there's that fight between oil and gas and renewables. And in fairness, the renewables folks back to the oil and gas, people are, yeah, but your product
17:18 generates carbon and you don't pay a tax on that. You go pollute the, you know, and so there, there ain't kind of lies the rub of the big fight and quite frankly, why we're having fuses, those
17:31 folks will get together and talk about that instead of, you know. Do you think that if they were to get charged a fine for not producing that it would create innovation, like faster innovation
17:46 within like the wind solar community? Yeah, yeah. You know, so when I did the energy policy draft as a podcast and had people on and they chose what their policy was gonna be, David Ramsen Woods
18:02 prescription for the way to create innovation and unleash the free market was no more subsidies, no more accelerated depreciation on things, energy, y'all just go compete with each other and
18:17 the winner falls out whoever wins.
18:22 The issue with that is how do you treat carbon? 'Cause I mean, even if you don't believe that rising CO2 levels is leading to global warming, even if you just say, no, we're in natural cycles and
18:35 all that, CO2 still sucks in the air. I mean, you don't sit behind a car and suck in fumes 'cause it's right, you know? So there is, I think we all agree pollution has some Some people may think
18:51 it's us, some people may think it's that. So that was David Ramsey Woods way of
18:59 going through creating innovation.
19:05 Another thing we clearly need to do is way more shots on goal. I mean, we need to throw money at things and have inventors inventing, entrepreneurs trying to create companies around this, because
19:22 we can talk all we want to about how
19:27 we're going to
19:32 reduce carbon emissions, all that, we're not. I mean, it's John Kerry rolling and Stop Flying is playing around. I mean, Leonardo, I mean, 25-year-old girls like the plane, right - So I get
19:45 it, Leonardo, you need your plane, but you know. So we're not going to reduce our standard of living and the only thing that we've got really out there to if CO2 is this huge problem is technology
20:01 and the only way to get the technology is way more shots on goal. So I think, and I'm a libertarian, so if the government went away, I'd be the happy guy. But at the end of the day, if you're
20:13 going to have government spending money, throw it everywhere, you know, just so we get kind of more shots on goal. This is actually kind of difficult. I'm glad y'all didn't ask me on.
20:24 I feel like this is a crossover. This is so hard. It's like, oh my gosh, I wasn't ready for this. You put you on the spot. I know the uh, back in the back in the day, Chevy Chase at the start
20:35 of Saturday night live, Gerald Ford was a president and Chevy Chase would impersonate him. And they were doing a mock to presidential debate and Chevy Chase leans on his drill for it. I was. my
20:47 understanding there was going to be no math on this debate.
20:53 That's how you feel. That that is. I have a I have a segment I want to do. Uh oh. Let me do it. Oh my gosh. Surprise. Surprise. Misty's scaring me with that smile. Oh my gosh. What is it?
21:05 Okay. Yes. All right. So I haven't talked I don't know I haven't talked to all of you about this, but this is a fun segment that I would actually like to introduce into our podcast It's called
21:16 factor cap. And I'm going to tell you some
21:22 sentences some statements about energy and you're going to say factor cap. What does cap mean? That's like not just this is you. Yeah. Like like an over reaction. It's it's a false statement.
21:34 It's a false. True false. But yeah, factor cap keeping up with the times. Okay. How would I use the use cap in a sentence as me - But I think towards my.
21:46 me directed towards my 15, 16 or 20 year old. How would I say that? Stop capping on dad? Yeah, I guess like, I feel like that's like, people say no cap, no cap. Meaning it's like completely
21:58 true. Like I could be like, I'm wearing a garnish shirt, like no cap. Like, you know, it's for sure. I'm wearing this color shirt. Everyone in my family is going to get roasted for me
22:07 explaining what that's cat means on a podcast. No cap. Okay. All right. So capper, a cat or cat. It's a fact. So if it's you think if it's not sure you just say cap, it's it's another word for
22:19 like that's false. I guess like that's cap. I wonder where it came from. Different segment continue. Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to go to the wall.
22:29 Okay. First one, a single lightning bolt unleashes five times more heat than the sun. Factor cap. Fact. I don't actually know the answer - Oh, I was waiting We came a little underprepared today
22:46 - I'm assuming they're actually facts, but one more. This mightn't just say that either - Okay -
22:57 60 minutes of solar energy could power the earth for a year. Factor cap Cap - - Cap - Oh yeah - Why - Is it cap - I think it's a cap - It could be cap, depending on how you read it, and if you get
23:11 an explanation, solar energy meaning the sun, not like capturing it, it's just like straight up sun power - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I took at meaning was the state of solar technology today,
23:29 if it just had an hour of sun, which would be a stupid question, right - That's exactly what I was told today - Yeah, so, no, no, no, that would be a stupid question because of course it gets
23:41 an hour of sun, and we don't power the whole world with it. Yeah, yeah. So you're just saying if we could capture an hour of sunlight, capture all of it and probably have perfect efficiency in
23:54 the transformation - So for the purpose of explaining, the
24:01 sun is the most powerful source of energy in the universe sending
24:05 430 quintillion joules. Do you say joules or joules - Jules - Jules - What - Of energy - I'm not going to say it right there - I'm not going to - Every year - So I've never heard anyone say it like
24:17 that - Say joules - Joules - Jules - Is it joules - It's joules
24:22 like joules - It's joules - Yeah, it's joules - You're a powerful energy - Yeah, you are - A beaming the ray of sunlight -
24:30 You're gonna do one more - Sure - 10 Google searches can power a 60 watt light bulb. Factor cap - That totally seems like a fact. You know? So. The fourth largest user of energy on the planet,
24:46 it's the Xbox network - Oh, yeah - You know what I mean? All the kids sitting around, yeah, I read that fact somewhere - Yeah - It's just, it's crazy. I mean, everybody goes on about Bitcoin
24:58 mining and how much energy it uses. It's like, no, it's the kids down in the basement with the heads up - Are they really kids though - The adults - Yeah - That's right, they're not a boy or old -
25:07 Tell us about your ex-boyfriend - That sounds so - Did we lose a boy to the Xbox - Yeah - No, it's the 30 to 40 year old whose kids are taking a nap and they're upstairs playing Xbox - Yeah, I can't
25:22 defend my people. That's very true. So what's the plan? So bring people on, ask kind of basic questions and energy where the podcast goes. Target listener, is this kind of like my mom? Mom
25:37 should be listening to it, who else? I think it's really anyone whether you're in the industry, outside the industry, you know a little bit, you know nothing. I think it's for anyone who just
25:48 wants to raise their own IQ. I feel like energy, oil and gas, the IRA, renewables, EVs, there are such big topics that you're seeing almost in every major publication every week. There's some
26:01 sort of something about whether it's gas prices or EVs or, God, I could go on, but it's for anyone who just wants to raise their IQ 'cause that's the goal at the end of the day Just to get everyone,
26:13 no matter your opinions, is have that base knowledge to be able to have the conversation, which is something I feel like all of us coming from outside of energy, working at Digital Auto Cutters now,
26:23 I know that's been kind of a personal goal, I think for all of us and it's been fun along the way to kind of start at that base level. So when you're hearing people come in at the office and talking
26:34 about it, you actually can listen and know - Follow, yeah - Well, you know, I'll say this as somebody, you know, I mean, I've been in energy what? 30 years now. And even I would have meetings
26:49 where we were going through due diligence on land issues in an oil and gas deal and just asking a bunch of basic questions of the land man on like, okay, we have a title dispute. What is it? And
27:05 him saying him or her saying, well, I went to the courthouse and what what what do you do at the courthouse? And you go back and they just walked through kind of the basics and I'm sure they
27:15 thought I knew that because I've been in the business forever and you know you don't have a clue. So this is cool. Yeah, I think it's even people within the energy industry are so tunnel vision on
27:26 their specific sector. They're oil and gas. That's all they tunnel vision on that so renewables geothermal like they're not Maybe they're not so educated on all of the other energy sectors. So
27:40 that's another reason why we're doing it. Oh, that's cool - The, so I got lectured when I started a podcast. You know, the key to it is consistency. If you're gonna drop Wednesday morning at
27:55 eight o'clock, drop every Wednesday morning at eight o'clock - Yes, Chad, yes -
28:03 Y'all scared me - So we are dropping every Thursday starting. How did we drop this Thursday - We did it - Next Thursday - Let me next Thursday - Okay. And how do people find this again -
28:19 Energy 101. So you can, we're on Spotify, Apple, whatever you can search digital wallet categories in the G101. You can also go to digital wallet categoriescom and we're there - And YouTube, are
28:32 y'all doing video too? Or just audio? Nice - Yes, video - Okay, very cool - So if any of Chuck's listeners have any ideas we should have on our topics that we should cover. This is great for
28:44 anyone outside the industry that's like, hey, I would love to learn more about XYZ. We are your people. We got your back. There we go. There we go. Very cool. I'm not sure I would have made
28:56 that broad a statement to my listeners. It's
29:00 kind of like you're going to get maybe an answer from my mom and my fourth grade teacher
29:08 I'm not sure, but besides that. Hey, if they don't know much about energy and they want to learn more, that's our audience. Or if you are an expert on a topic and when it comes, school us up.
29:17 Nice. That's a good idea. Nice. Very cool. Wait, before we go, we want to ask you one last question. All right. Are you ready? I guess. What is your most embarrassing story ever? Ooh.
29:29 Ooh. Ever Ooh. Tell us the tea. Ever. The most embarrassing story ever. Okay.
29:48 So I will also think of something more embarrassing while I'm telling this story, this was pretty embarrassing. So one day I was a freshman in high school, right? And that's pretty awkward time,
29:56 right? And it's even more awkward, I'm trying not to get on my soapbox, but as freshmen and high school women, right? Y'all got all the attention from the senior and junior guys, everything's
30:07 cool The freshman guy is the most awkward person on the planet, right? And so I'm sitting in class one time and someone who shall remain nameless 'cause there's an
30:22 outside chance that a high school friend is listening to this. I was actually talking to a really cute girl and my mom barged into class and took my car keys because I had left shorts on the floor.
30:39 of my bed. Wow. Yes. Wow. And God loves Sally yet. She's the greatest human being on the planet. She really is. I need to take some tips from her. She was she has four boys. And so there were
30:52 just those days when, you know, stuff hit, mom's a wonderful mom. We had dinner two nights ago. She's very special. Came in, yanked my car keys right in front of cute girl. I was traumatized.
31:06 Thank goodness. What did a girl say? Like, barge and you can't do that now. Oh, small town Richmond, Richmond, Rosenberg. No, you small town Richmond Rosenberg back in the day. Anything does.
31:18 Like mom barged in and then the teacher said, I don't know what you did, but your mom came in and took you out in the hall and popped you and then the assistant principal heard that your mom did
31:26 that. He took you to the office and popped you to. So I mean, it was like, and then you got home and because you got popped at school, your mom popped you again. So yeah, it was. Yeah, it was.
31:36 Was Q Girl making fun of you? I don't know, we never went out -
31:42 We never made eye contact. And it was all because of the keys and Sally - It was all because of the, yeah, it was all because of the keys and Sally. So, yeah, actually in fairness, cute girl
31:55 agreed to go out with me and then stood me up - No - Oh, let's just go ahead and take this story to the end of it. We'll have to break this. We won't say any names on here - Give her a fake name -
32:07 Yeah, okay, Sarah Steffy, that was an actual name - I really thought that was her - That was very fascinating - I can't believe I'm gonna tell this story on the podcast, but anyway, Sarah doesn't
32:17 listen to it. And Sarah and I are first - She might, this is gonna be the one episode - Sarah and I are friends out. So anyway, Sarah agreed to go out with me and she stood me up. She went and
32:27 spent the night with all her friends that night, but I got her back later on. But this is like how horrible a human being I am. So I'm fessing up to how horrible.
32:38 So Sarah started dating my friend Mike and like later on and this was one true love and all that sort of stuff. And so he was my best friend. So I kind of had to be nice to Sarah and we were nice
32:49 and all that. And Mike was going out of town one weekend -
32:55 Oh, chat - Two - Two - No, no, no, I didn't do what you think I did. Mike was going out of town one weekend to actually cheat on Sarah And I played like I was Sarah's best friend and took her to
33:08 a movie and all that 'cause Mike's out of town and all that. Yes, I was a facilitator of that - So did you know - Knowing what - Did she know - Oh yeah, she found out -
33:20 Did you tell her - What - No, I didn't tell her - How did we find out - Well, I think Mike finally fussed up to her or the 12 people at the party watching it told her I don't know - God. And that
33:35 is my most embarrassing story, full circle - That was a good one - I'm kind of breaking out in a sweat. I shouldn't have told that.
33:42 I'm sorry, Sarah, that was very wrong of me - You should end every episode with an embarrassing story - You should, I feel like you have way I know - This was way too traumatic.
33:54 I can't believe, and I'm not coming on Energy 101. Not if that is more of those. Yeah, exactly - We're gonna talk about celebrities if
34:02 you come on Energy 101 - Oh, love me some celebrities - Quickly, who is the celebrity that you fangirl the most over - Fangirl the most over - Like when you met you met - That was just Star Struck -
34:15 I mean, like there's no question. It's not even close. The fangirl the most over, Brett Michael of Poison. Totally. So I've hung out backstage with Brett, 'cause the beauty of a Brett Michael
34:32 show. Literally everything's for sale, right? I mean, hey, I want that hat that Brett wore on stage. Tour man's like, Well, what will you give me - Yeah - You know what I mean? So literally
34:43 one of the shows, I was like, Hey, I wanna go hang out in the trailer with Brett Michael. What will you give me? And so anyway, I bought my way back and I've subsequently bought my way back
34:52 about three or four times. So let's call it four or five times I've hung backstage with Brett Michael. And I've got a picture on my phone that a buddy took when we were backstage and I call it Brett
35:05 Michael, Where is my restraining order? 'Cause Brett just looks terrified. But he's like, When is this guy gonna go away - He's like, Yes, guys, yes - When is this guy gonna go away? But the
35:14 first time I ever went backstage to hang out with Brett Michael, I was starstruck, I mean, this is my dude, right - Yeah - So I kind of walk up and I'm starstruck and he's like, Hey, I'm Brett.
35:24 And I go, I know this sounds kind of gay, but can I have a hug? And Brett looked at me and goes, Dude, that's totally gay, but bring it on No! coolest guy on the planet. That's a lot of fun.
35:36 Yes, totally fanboy. Well, you guys are very cool to come on. I really like the idea of the podcast. That's that's going to be really cool. And I'm going to go listen to them because I want to
35:44 hear about robots. I want to hear Justin because Justin's cool. Yeah. And Kay sounds like that that's really cool. Her episode was probably like one of my favorite. That's already out. So Diana
35:56 isn't out yet. OK, Diana will be next week. OK. But Kay's is really good. Cool. Well, yeah. So Sarah, Stephanie, again, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for revealing that story. Well, I don't think
36:12 that micro content will make its way to Facebook and all our high school friends. So you're probably safe.
36:18 But thank you guys for coming on. Thanks for having us.
