From Non-Profit to Product Champion with Jennifer Stewart
0:01 All right. Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Energy 101. We are in the studio with myself, Sydney. We got Jules. We got John - Revenant Rad Dad - Revenant Rad Dad is back - They've
0:12 suckered me into another episode - We're gonna try and keep his word limit to yes, not something astronomical today - We will cut you off - We will cut you off - It's needed, it's unnecessary people
0:23 - Our guest of honor today is Jennifer Stewart from Cored Energy She is a neighbor of Johns - Yeah, I mean, for a few years now - Several years, yeah, yeah - It's funny 'cause we met just through
0:37 some neighborhood stuff, some mutual friends, and then I think I saw, like you posted on Jeff Rustin's like Facebook, something that he posted and I was like, how do you know Jeff Rustin? He was
0:47 the first company man I ever worked for when I graduated as a field engineer and so it's a small, small world - Jeff was a company man at BHP just it's So lot a with worked I that interesting how.
1:01 We knew we ended up finding out that we knew a lot of the same people in the industry. So I always say Houston is a big city, but it is like the smallest big city. Yes. On the planet. I know the
1:12 industry alone is like that as well. Even outside of that, like when I meet people out, just restaurants, whatever, bars, everyone, like knows other people. And I'll see photos of like girls
1:23 that I know. I'm like, how do you know this? It's wild. Yeah. And it's, but Jen, give us a rundown on your background How you got into the industry. So now you have a very interesting path.
1:35 Yes. So I actually have two degrees political science and psychology, which neither of which have anything to do with what I do. I've always kind of, you know, saw myself with a career in
1:51 politics, even considered going into the Air Force and, you know, entering into JAG. I really wanted to do law I thought law was going to be like my path. politics. And then, you know, life
2:04 tends to take you on different journeys. And when I graduated college, I kind of started doing the local city ordinance
2:15 out of Longview, Texas. That's where I was living. Where is that? That is like, Texas. It's
2:22 like 45 minutes outside of Shreveport on the Texas side. If you know what Shreveport is. And basically, just started kind of working with a nonprofit organization and doing things like tobacco
2:36 cessation awareness, you know. And, you know, at that time, it was a really great job. I was kind of doing what I was wanting to do, getting my feet wet and working with nonprofits. Describe
2:48 what that is real quick for people who don't know what tobacco cessation is. Quit smoking That's the lowest level that I can describe. bringing awareness and education to the schools, even to
3:02 people just like your ordinary people in the city, just like kind of letting them know, hey, like this is the kind of, you know, health problems that it brings you and why you shouldn't be doing
3:16 this and all the different like additives and all that that are added into tobacco and things like that. So we were really pushing that and it was successful And that's when people, you know, could
3:26 no longer smoke in restaurants kind of thing. So that's like where my whole like work experience started post graduation of college. And then, you know, the state underwent budget cuts and funding.
3:41 And so my grant was cut and it was kind of time to, you know, move back to the city, you know, get on some concrete because that's kind of like, you know, what I grew up in is more of a city
3:53 girl, less of a country girl kind of thing. So move back to Houston and started working for an engineering firm at the time, which was known as
4:05 PPI. And basically I was an administrative assistant for several months and worked with a group of people who were all on the IT data side, and they were building out software for a lot of the
4:21 operators to track things like non-productive time and management of change And so over time, they brought me on and
4:32 gave me a promotion as data analysts and went and I worked for BHP. And essentially it was like they're not their account manager, but I represented PPI and I was responsible for the software and I
4:50 delivered a lot of like KPIs and performance reviews and all that on a productive time.
4:57 engineer so to speak - Yeah, yeah. And
5:01 then those folks at BHP were like, oh, we like you. We wanna bring you on full time and they were needing more texts because BHP, they had Chesapeake, they bought some Chesapeake - They bought a
5:15 bunch of assets during that time period - Yes, and from Patrick and they were needing folks. And so I came in not knowing a thing about what it was that I would be doing right. And I - Kind of
5:30 sounds like us - Yeah, let me tell you, when I was very green, even though I was supporting a software and talking about management change and non-productive time, I was just an excel wiz really
5:42 to be honest with you. I knew how to export data, pivot the data and give it back to them. And basically, I was a really good speaker too, so I could put it in presentations and all that. That
5:54 was like the gist of my job.
5:59 Well, I had a boss who was a very strong personality, and I liked that about him because you always know where you stand with somebody. And he came to me like the first couple of days of me being
6:13 employed at BHP and was just like, you have one week to learn open wells. That's intimidating. When you've never even worked in a software, never worked for an operator, this was like you refresh
6:28 kind of still to the industry 'cause at this point I had only been in the industry for like, I don't know, maybe a year - Right - And let me tell you, I did it - Good for you - I loved the
6:39 challenge and I did it. And I ended up becoming what they would call product champion of open wells - So sorry, what is open wells - Yeah, that's okay - Okay, so let's touch on that - So in the
6:49 industry, a lot of operators use different platforms to track their operations data. Open Wells is an application that is owned by Landmark, which is a Halliburton company. Something that I'm
7:05 using today is called WellView, which is an application that Peloton owns - Oh,
7:13 not that Peloton - Oh, no, I'm like - It just was like wow - Peloton getting inside - It's a very different company and that's a totally new software - I know, immediately that's where my brain
7:25 went - Yeah, yeah. Did you happen to think of the show Sex and the City - Yes - Big dies on the Peloton. Yeah, not the same thing. But yeah, so there's a lot of different applications that
7:38 different operators use based on the level of their operations, like in terms of volume - Right -
7:46 Another software is like WellEasy, which does the same thing, but it's more for the smaller operators that maybe have like one rig and maybe a half rack. kind of thing and it's just not a lot of
7:58 like high volume work.
8:01 You have some complicated softwares and some super easy ones. But Open Wilds was something that I eventually became like as their product champion within BHP. And eventually, as I went to go work
8:12 for Sanchez oil and gas, now Mesquite Energy, that skill set definitely propped me up there too. And now I've learned a totally new software.
8:26 And I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. But you know, I have a vision of myself becoming an expert in well view as well, hopefully soon. So I think that's a good just talking point in
8:38 general is that, you know, you don't have to be a petroleum engineer to get into the industry. But when you are in there, if you can identify some of these incredibly common, you know,
8:50 applications, programs, softwares that a lot of different people in the industry. energy industry use and become an expert at that, you're very attractive to a lot of people over the long term.
9:02 And so that's a - To engineers learn, like those applications in college -
9:09 They learn some of them. I think a lot more of them, like, I'm not a petroleum engineer, so I can't speak in as much detail on that, but a lot of them are more like high level type reservoir
9:20 simulation software or like just higher level type things And then there's all these other things that kind of bolt on and feed into those and like well view and open wells. Those are kind of one of
9:32 those things, right? Like all of your operations data goes into that, whether that's like logs and cores or just your frack and drilling data. And then that data goes over to the simulator
9:42 software as it comes in and somebody else does something with it. That's one of the biggest, I feel like, complexities of the energy spaces. There's always something going on across all of your
9:53 wells There's always data coming in. There's always different people in different groups that need that data at different times and at different frequencies. That's why you do what you do.
10:01 Generally speaking, that's very, very important data that ends up potentially could cost companies lots and lots of money if they don't have it, right? Absolutely. And
10:14 for my role, my role is now senior engineering tech and I work in the drilling and completion space and a lot of what I do is very data driven, very data heavy and a lot of different functions, a
10:29 lot of different groups rely heavily on that data. They rely on it to be quality
10:36 data. So it can't be crap data going in and it definitely can't be crap data going out, right? And so a lot of what I do is spending a lot of time in the data scrubbing it Many people on how to use
10:50 the software trying to get buy-in particularly from the field, those field guys, what they do, they are experts in what they do, whether it be a drilling company man, whether it be a completions
11:05 company man, work over, those guys are experts in what they do. And one thing that they are experts at particularly is reporting data. Right So it's so critical to get buy in from the field so
11:22 that the data does become useful. And so that's a huge piece of what I do is working with those field guys, getting the reporting right, making sure they're capturing costs. So that way we can
11:35 make business decisions on things like our schedules. How many wells can we go and drill and frock this year? Do we have the money for that? Do we have the budget? Do we ramp up? Do we ramp down?
11:48 Do we lay down rigs? We pick up rigs.
11:51 It's a very critical world to be in. And when we were getting started, you mentioned you compared it to being a nurse to a doctor - Yes - In terms of my position, yes. Engineers are degree
12:04 engineers. They're likely either petroleum engineers or mechanical engineers - I was gonna ask that, like the most common types of engineers in energy oil and gas are mechanical and petroleum -
12:15 Awesome, petroleum obviously, right? 'Cause that's direct. And then I would say the next two are probably either, I don't know where they rank, but I would say mechanical and chemical are the
12:24 two next kind of big ones, at least on the operator side. There's quite a few industrial engineers on the service side, primarily because the service company, a lot of the big ones at least,
12:34 manufacturer, a lot of their own stuff. And that's what industrial engineering is kind of focused on. But yeah, it's a pretty big gambit of
12:44 different sides. But the chemical, I think chemis and emis are probably the most common behind the PE guys And I would imagine that. This is why as we were talking, a lot of people think that you
12:54 do need some sort of degree to work and energy and oil and gas. At least I would think at the corporate level. As we know, there are a ton of really wonderful positions open on the field and for
13:05 people who maybe don't have a degree or we talked about kids coming out of high school out in Midland and being able to make a hundred grand a year. But on the degree level, maybe a more corporate
13:16 level here in Houston, downtown, working for one of the big shiny companies, I think it's scary for people thinking, I don't have that degree or I can't backtrack and go get the degree because
13:27 that's going to take me another X money year. So I love that you've started as an admin and kind of just worked your way up to now doing what you're doing. Yeah, I mean, I will tell you,
13:39 if I could encourage people to go to school and get a degree, that's the way to go I'm still kicking myself to this day. I was supposed to take a geology course, my freshman year. And at the time,
13:53 I didn't know anything about oil and gas. I didn't know anything about geology. And I'm sitting here kicking myself, because those guys are super successful. They're amazing at their jobs. And
14:05 I'm over here like, why didn't I just take that dang rocks class? Yeah, because it was a rocks class. That's not the most sexy or attractive class when you're signing up for courses in college.
14:18 No, especially when you're an 18 year old And you're kind of like, you know, why, why do I need this? But I'm still like, dang it, you know, but no, so you're right. You don't have to have a
14:36 particular degree to be successful in this industry. You can definitely come into this industry with a political science degree
14:46 and work your way up or you can take the shortcut and go get a PE.
14:52 or a mechanical engineering degree and go through that route, you can even bypass the college degree. Right. Because I know a ton of successful people, especially one in particular that comes to
15:06 mind that's a friend of mine who doesn't have a college degree, but she's a badass in regulatory and she's now a senior regulatory specialist for an offshore operator. And she is doing a tremendous
15:17 job at her role And I knew people who just came up through the service side and spent their time in the field. But there is something that comes with not having the right degree and that is time.
15:31 You got to be willing to put in the time and the work and the networking in order to get where you're at. Because mine didn't come overnight. It took me 10 years to get the
15:45 respect that I have in the industry for sure. Yeah, no, that's one of my favorite things about our industry. in particular is that, you know, if you don't have the ability to go get a degree,
15:56 like you can still go make good money. And there's not, and it's not just the short term, like I'm just gonna go make a couple hundred grand for a couple of years and then leave. I mean, you can
16:08 obviously do that if you wanted to, but there's a path for people that start out in the field if they really want to go out and end up, you know, in the office, so to speak Because a lot of the
16:20 guys, you know, in the office, at least in my experience, generally speaking, the guys that have, you know, 10 years of field experience versus a PE straight out of school, the guy that has 10
16:30 years of field experience knows way more about the day to day of an oil business, oil and gas company than a PE coming out of AM or wherever not to knock them, but they just don't have the hands on
16:41 experience, right? And so you can learn everything you want in a book, but once it's very different, once you're actually out in the real world and doing things. Doctors have residencies, right?
16:51 They go to med school and then they have this time where they have to have the hands-on experience and I feel like unless you're getting your hands dirty, that degree is only gonna get you so far
17:02 because there are so many other things that come up on the day to day - Absolutely, I tell so many new engineers that come out of college to find operators that have a development program that put
17:16 you out in the field at least the first year or two of your career or go service side because a lot of engineers that I know have the respect that they do because they were out there swinging hammer -
17:28 Yeah -
17:30 And so, and that's also honestly why I have spent so much time in the field even as a tech and I encourage so many operators as well as, you know, fellow techs that I know in the industry, if you
17:43 have the opportunity to go to the field, go to the field - Yeah are only a better tech to your engineer and can provide them the same. that they need if you understand the operations and you've seen
17:54 it with your own eyes and you're asking questions. That's another piece of advice in terms of becoming successful even as a tech. For sure. No, and that's to your point. There's a couple big
18:07 independent operators that I know of that have really good. They're two-year-long training programs for degree at Engineers or Out of School, right? They do six months and drilling, six months and
18:17 completions, production, etc. And they do that because those guys also have a degree but they know nothing about what's going on on the day to day. And so, yeah, the path is longer and more
18:28 hours and harder if you don't have the degree, but there's still a very direct path for you to get into a more stable role that you're not working nearly as much hours. You have better balance. But
18:43 if you're 18, 19, 20 years old, coming out of school or not in school, coming out of school, whatever, and just looking for something that has. full of challenges and you will never, never
18:52 quit learning. It's hard to be, I feel like. Yeah, absolutely. And I also think about to, you know, going back to like my roots in the industry when I started as an admin, you know, at my
19:06 previous job when I was working for Sanchez-Willing Gas, you know, there was somebody that worked within our group who was also administrative assistant. And you know, I immediately thought to
19:16 myself, okay, this person has a lot of potential. They're spending time working with engineers and their boss who was a VP at the time. And I felt like I could use this person. And so I started
19:30 to kind of pour into that person and teaching them things about oil and gas, teaching them about operations and then kind of delegating some work to them so that they could also develop their career.
19:41 And so I think that operators should definitely be open to, you know, taking a look at their, even their admins. Right, so that they aren't necessarily career admins. Like I realize some people,
19:53 that's what they wanna do. They wanna be an administrative assistant or an executive assistant for their career. And that is okay because that's what they wanna do - Misty kills it. I don't know if
20:03 that is her, I don't know if she has that thought that, but she's our executive admin and she runs her place. That
20:11 is the hard job - That is the hard job. That is a hard job. That is a people-pleasing job. That is -
20:17 I don't know how she does it - You have to be a rock star to be good at that. I mean, and also like your boss a lot in order to be really good at that. But
20:26 my point in saying this is, don't bypass those admins who are looking for a promotion or even a lateral move because sometimes your tech positions can be entry level. But those guys definitely have
20:40 the ability to get into a tech space, a technical role within an operational function.
20:49 I think it's really putting in the time and the effort and the willingness to learn. I would think that it'd be safe to say anyone coming into energy or oil and gas outside of having that degree and
21:01 going to college for it, kind of like us. Put in the time to learn a little bit about the industry as a whole, not even specifically what your company does or what that job role is, but do a
21:13 little research into all of it And I think on our end to I think at any conference or event we throw, it's nice kind of at this point, at least being able to be a part of the conversation or at
21:25 least understand know what people
21:28 are talking about when they're saying those kind of buzz words that we hear day to day at and at the office. We actually know what they mean now. Yeah. Yeah, we're not off in Lala. Yeah. Like
21:38 sounds good. I think that's another big thing I don't think it's talked about enough because
21:45 people in the industry are willing to help you as much as you're willing to. help yourself, right? If you're showing up and you're putting in the work, you're asking questions, people generally
21:54 speaking, most people want to educate and share and help you learn and add people to the industry family, so to speak. If you come and you're just there for the money and you don't really care
22:06 about anything else and you're just showing up and doing your thing and you're not going above and beyond, it's probably going to be a little bit harder. But if you show up and you do your job and
22:15 you ask questions and show that you care, people will help and educate and that's one of the coolest things about our industry in my opinion. Absolutely. And I think you said something that really
22:26 kind of like homes in on like even my own career and my experience and you use the term family for industry because to me, I really see our industry as that. You know, getting out there and
22:40 participating in industry events and networking and getting to know more of your peers is so critical to your career. Not only that, but even as your role in the industry evolves and you get to know
22:54 people, you create even like these relationships. Sometimes people refer to it as like operator, vendor, relationship, but to be perfectly honest with you, a lot of these relationships that I
23:05 have built with people have become like really great friends - Yeah - And family, you know? And what I love about that is that there are so many people in this industry that wanna see you thrive,
23:20 they wanna see you be successful, they wanna educate you, they want you to participate, they
23:28 wanna see your career grow, you know? And that's something that I love so much about our industry that really I don't know that you find anywhere else, but that I might be biased to you, so - No,
23:40 I was thinking about that. And we had Kay McCall on and she had a kind of tagline grated She was talking more in terms of renewables and oil and gas and kind of this energy transitionaddition thing.
23:51 But she said synergy not silos. And I feel like that also applies to the industry as a whole as a workforce, because you think when the industry as a whole is doing well, everyone's doing well, so
24:03 you should want everyone at your company, other companies, people coming into the industry to succeed. And you should want to attract talent and get people, maybe younger people, like we talked
24:14 about JP and his kids crew, like getting kids high school students, college is excited about energy again and getting those people into the industry just to keep keep the momentum going for sure.
24:27 Well, in general, right? Like most people have no, no understanding of where their energy comes from or how it gets there, right? And you're right, like all the way down to the kids level. And
24:38 I'm so glad people like JP and Nancy and some of these other folks are, you know, getting out there and having kids books and kids clubs and stuff like that because yeah, you know, like you talk
24:48 to kids - It's really cool - Yeah, it's great, it's great education. It is interesting, right? So it excites them to learn about science and engineering, which obviously I'm a big fan of. And
24:59 yeah, just having starting that education as early as you can around it makes,
25:11 in my opinion, a much more well-rounded person because you can think about, hey, it's not just just showing up at my house and I just plug it in and there it is, right? Like there's a lot more
25:14 that goes into it - And it all ties into, I think, our mission at Dejuelle Catter is just raising the world's energy IQ and getting the message out there that everyone should care about energy -
25:24 Absolutely. And one of the things too that I love is I've seen a lot of companies, you know, where they go
25:31 out into the communities where operations is, you know, where there's a lot of operations going, like high volume work and they'll go into those communities and they'll go into the schools,
25:39 they'll go into the Boys and Girls Clubs. and other like little local groups and organizations and some of the engineers that will work for those companies will go out and do like demonstrations. Or
25:51 I've also been a part of situations where you can go into like elementary schools for your kids and you get to talk about what you do for a living and that's an opportunity too to educate kids about
26:02 what you do and how you can get to that point. Like if you wanted to be an engineer, what it takes to be an engineer or even what I do As far as being a tech or folks that are in finance or
26:15 marketing or anything like that because those people also play critical roles. But if you have an opportunity to go out there and educate at the school level or even at some of these nonprofits like
26:26 Boys and Girls Club go out and do it because it's literally the future of our industry which is gonna be huge -
26:35 Yeah, no, that's, I started my first two internships, real internships were in the wind. space, right? And it was through that that I realized like, Hey, did some research on energy, right?
26:47 Like I started getting into it. It's like energy is not going anywhere. Demand for energy is not going anywhere. It's only going to continue to grow. And so I was like, huh, maybe energy is the
26:55 right, right play. I ended up in the oil and gas space, which I'm forever grateful for. And it's, but it's yeah, you know, people just don't generally think about the fact that energy makes
27:06 everything happen. And
27:10 it's only going to get more important, the older that we get, you know, right. And you know, one of the things that I've found too in my career, having worked with, you know, some politicians
27:22 about the different levels of energy is, you know, understanding the different energy opportunities, diversifying our energy mix, having a portfolio here in the United States, understanding the
27:36 reasons why it's important for us to have a diverse, or supplied energy mix. understanding how it plays into our national security. Those are all things that are critical. But for me, personally,
27:50 I'm a big advocate of oil and gas and a big advocate of supporting our oil-filled families and just seeing people thrive - Yeah, I mean, yet another thing that doesn't get talked about is just how
28:03 much kind of
28:07 money comes into the communities where there is oil and gas development, right? Like part of my job as a field engineer was to bring snacks, bring breakfast, right? And I would go to the same
28:17 donut shop every morning and pick up donuts and collagees for the company man because I knew he liked it, right? Where we go get 200 worth of groceries for the career that week. Like there's so
28:26 much secondary and tertiary effects of what oil and gas activity does to an area than just what the news would have you think, which is oil and gas companies making record profits And so it's a.
28:41 Yeah, that's why I work here, because those things need to be talked about, right? It's an important part of it. Yeah, there's so many different energy, while oil and gas events to that support
28:53 different, what am I trying to say, like nonprofits or charities? You
29:00 know, oil-filled helping hands is a really big one. That one supports oil-filled families, where they experience unfortunate losses, whether it's job loss or, you know, unexpected, you know,
29:14 HSC-related type events that people have enduring in their families. So they fundraise for that. They are, you know, again, going back to, you know, supporting people in the communities and
29:26 stuff like that. You know, they're pouring monies into the schools. They're pouring money into the small businesses. I mean, hotels are seen.
29:41 All kinds of activities, restaurants - Right on - You know, there's so many benefits to having a huge oil and gas presence in communities -
29:51 Yeah - Pretty much just that - Yeah, it's always easy to know when oil prices are high 'cause the minimum wage in Midland prices. You can just go see how many people are working at Olive Garden.
30:04 And if it's more than three or four, prices probably aren't very good But if it's less than that, and you know, we're hiring 25 an hour sign on the door, which happens in a lot of places, then
30:16 it's pretty good sign that times you get. So it's - I love it. You wanna wrap up with our rapid sign - Yeah, here we go. You ready? We got three questions. Number one, what's the number one
30:27 misconception about the energy industry - Okay, so in our industry, yes, it is a male dominant industry However, Things are changing. There are so many women who are in leadership positions, who
30:44 are engineers, and they're rock stars at what they do. There's so much opportunity. A lot of operators, a lot of other third party companies are pushing for that diversity and inclusion. There's
30:55 so much opportunity. And so you can be successful, you can be empowered, you can climb the ladder and be a leader in this industry And so yes,
31:11 please do not think that if you are a woman that you cannot be successful in this industry because it is a male dominant industry - I love that. There is a place for you here - There is - 100 - There
31:22 is - Number two, why should we care about the energy industry -
31:27 I mean - For people that don't know anything about it, like why is it important to educate them on why
31:34 they should care? where you can go all the way up from the very top and talk about national security, which I think is a huge factor to something as simple as making sure that every home can stay
31:51 warm in the winter. Not to mention all the other products that we have that are petroleum products that we use that if we didn't have that, what else would there be? What really is your plan B - I
32:05 loved all those Super Bowl graphics. I know flipping the barrel had one. I saw a couple others that were like, there would be no Super Bowl without petroleum, the balls. Obviously all of the
32:16 electricity at the arenas and the fields were all made from truth now. Like it's an important, and yeah, people just don't know how much of our daily lives are affected by that. All the way up to
32:29 just like food too. Anything that requires that is made, produced, grown requires energy. input in some former fashion, whether it's a plant manufacturing stuff and you have to have electricity
32:43 to power that, or you're a farmer and your food has to get from A to B on, guess what? Probably some kind of motive transportation that uses fossil fuels in some former fashion. And so it's very
32:56 cool. It really does make the world go round. Yeah, it does. Absolutely. Last one. What's your most embarrassing story? This is our favorite
33:05 Oh, you know what? I do have one. Okay, so high level cliff notes version. I had a little too much fun at a company, like
33:22 bonding team bonding events. What do you call those? Like a retreat? No. Team building. Team building is the word, not bonding And so we were at the Woodlands Resort. This was several years ago.
33:36 I'm still in my twenties, you know, kind of trying to figure out my way in the industry. And Jennifer had a little too much to drink the night before. And the next morning, we were supposed to be
33:48 playing like this golf tournament with your different peers, like within different teams and all of that. And I don't play golf, but I had a little too much to drink. And maybe this isn't the
33:59 right topic to be covering, but nonetheless, Jennifer, and I'm talking in third person here, did not show up. T off was at, T time was like 8 am. I think I showed up at 11. And you know,
34:15 guess who was on my team? Boss. Boss man. The boss man. It wasn't my direct boss. It was my direct boss. Very boss. And he was on my team. And you know what, though? He had a great sense of
34:29 humor about it. really awesome about it, but I knew that it wasn't a
34:36 pretty look for me.
34:39 That's the other nice part is generally speaking, as long as you show up and get your shit done in our industry, people will have a little bit of leniency because most of us have been there in some
34:47 form of fashion. We're all humans, right? Yes, yes. It's always a good time. If you can make it out to any of the industry events and network and get to know other people, it's always a blast.
34:59 I am thankful for people like him who showed me a lot of grace that morning because I needed it for sure. I would have been like, I'm so sorry. That's something that would happen to me as well.
35:10 You're in your 20s.
35:14 Sometimes I have too much to drink. Anyways, yeah, it does. Well, thanks so much for coming on. We really enjoyed it. Thank you for having me I appreciate you guys. When do we think this
35:25 episode is coming out? What should be? This week. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. Great. So. get your empowered ticket. Get your empowered tickets. Only two weeks left. Am I allowed to say Bitcoin
35:35 mining? Yeah, I can, on this. I never know these days. Our energizing Bitcoin mining conference is coming up March 8th and 9th in Houston. After that, we are taking energy tech night to Denver.
35:46 So those are the two big ones coming up. Learn more on our website, social, get your tickets. Don't have FOMO. Yeah, we'll see you there. All right. Thanks, Jeffery.
